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nebekh (formerly known as tom)'s avatar

Complaining about being impoverished is usually complete garbage. I recently heard a sad tale of woe about someone who supposedly qualified for medicaid. Her mother had looked it up. My only question was whether her father drove her over to her medicaid appointments in his Ferrari, or if they kept a low profile in his Mercedes. I have routinely been called rich and privileged by those who had far more money and opportunities than I ever had. If you have to look up that you're poor then you are not. Same goes if you're giddy about telling everyone about your newly discovered impoverishment.

I was raised middle class. It sounds in many ways similar to Surak's description of his own upbringing. I remember the annual family vacation a drive away. The vacations primarily consisted of going for walks and reading. For many years I could not understand the point of driving somewhere else, since that's exactly what we would have done at home. Then I had to cook for myself (if you could call my sorry experiments cooking) and realized that my mother probably enjoyed vacation much more than the rest of us, since all of the meals were planned and prepared by someone else. I think the drive was just long enough to deter anyone complaining and going home and ruining her kitchen break.

These Woke-right jerks just want to be special in all the wrong ways. I have been dissed plenty of times by plenty of people over the years. Just one example, my nutty extended family, now suffering from TDS, has long since treated me like a 2nd class person. It never made me want to join sicko power hungry movements. I believe those of us with similar gripes, and probably worse than the average woke-jerk gripes, I believe we are the majority. If you have even a modicum of genuine humility, I don't see how you fall for the evil hucksters.

Plus, 120,000 sounds like a dang good salary. If I were young (sigh) and at loose ends and I heard about that, I would be in line at the nearest place that would train me in auto mechanics, and I'd already be paging through any relevant textbooks I could find. When you don't need the latest edition, textbooks are usually cheap. Probably you can even get good free reading material. I sure as heck would not be spending time listening to woke mediagogues. Instead, maybe they should listen to Surak's music suggestions. Although I still like John Field despite the fact that he composed past Surak's preferred final quality approved date, by a whisker.

Surak's avatar

LOL ;) Now I remember you!

the lilac dragonfly's avatar

Working as a mechanic means several things - living in a specific area, showing up to work at a specific time and staying for a certain length of time on certain days of the week (most likely five days per week), every week, all year long, for years. It requires actually DOING something and even - gasp - getting dirty, rather than sitting in a comfortable chair in front of a screen, or working on one’s phone from a fishing boat wherever one chooses to go.

When I was growing up, eating out at a restaurant was a rare and special treat. Most people didn’t fly in an airplane to go anywhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of my cousins have never flown. Grabbing a cup of coffee and a snack every day was not the norm, much less doing so several times per day. Picking up meals or having them delivered was unusual, not a weekly or daily occurrence.

When I got my first full time job as a delivery driver for a Honda dealership (September, 1989), I would get my lunch at a drive-through. I now regret how much money I spent during that 16 months. I could have saved a lot by taking my lunch with me. When I finished at my full time job, I would head over to babysit for two kids in the evenings, usually going straight there from my day job (on the days their mom was working as a dispatcher at the police department). During the day, I earned $4.75/hour (up to $5.00/hour after a year). In the evenings, I earned $2/hour.

I have never bought a new car, and actually don’t want a new car. I would be hyper paranoid about scratches and dents, and I also don’t want to be breathing in the toxic chemicals that are present in a new car. I’d rather have someone else break it in and detoxify it. One time, I called a junk yard to see how much they would give me for my old car. After I told them what all was wrong with it, they knew they would have to come pick it up and were surprised when I said, no, I was still driving it and I could drop it off.

I have a really hard time feeling sorry for young people nowadays when they have so much, yet assume that the things they have should be a given. There is a picture of AOC with her items of privilege. Someone pointed out how she doesn’t even realize how ironic and hypocritical her complaints are with what she carries around and wears every day.

Far too many people want as much as possible for as little effort as possible.

I despair of young people today and their expectations of what they deserve. I find it incredible how much people who are computer savvy can charge for their time while people who are willing to do real work and provide fundamentally necessary services (like growing healthy - not toxic - food) must work several hours to pay for an hour of someone tapping buttons on their computer to fix it. It seems to me that values are all mixed up.

Surak's avatar

Thank you for your feedback. Even though I appreciate all you said, it is still true that younger generations are carrying an enormous debt burden placed on them by older generations, including us. I am not surprised that they are reluctant to marry and raise children. Even as a professor, I felt reluctant for many years to become a homeowner.

Eric's avatar

Christians must be educated on the benefits Judaism has contributed to our country. They also need to understand the difference between Jewish Secularists and observant Jews. (I am not Jewish.)

Rabbi Lapine's book "Thou shall prosper should be required reading."

Chasing after real value creates wealth. Get educated on how to help others by building, fixing or healing. Universities have sold degrees with no return on investment.

Having a family creates dependence on God. Being single too long, often leads to discontent.

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Good to hear from you, Eric. Several good points there. Rabbi Lapin's book is called "Thou Shall Prosper" and is available here: https://rabbidaniellapin.com/product/thou-shall-prosper-hardcover-book/

Building, fixing, and healing: I like that combination!

FreedomFighter's avatar

Whoever said life is a breeze, a walk in the park? Most have their trials and tribulations. It is the curse of youth that they have to learn and earn before they can be old and comfortable. The youngsters are never happy, always complaining and rebelling against government and other figures of authority. Some times are easier or more lucrative than others. That is often a function of the state of the economy and events (such as war). Life is filled with opportunities for those who are aware enough to grab at them. Some people just spend their time on the planet complaining. House prices have climbed in recent years, mostly due to the economy. Many young people prefer fancy things and lifestyles of the rich, instead of saving to buy a house. They complain interest rates are high, yet I paid an outrageous 12.5% for my first home in the 80's. When rates came down, I refinanced. A little financial education goes a long way if you use your brain (instead of burning it out on social media by way of the I-phones).

As for the groypers, they latched on to the universal scapegoats of Israel and the Jews. There is something missing in their shallow lives, so let's just blame it on "those Jews". Screw them.

Charles Clemens's avatar

Obviously, I do not know VP Vance; but it defies logic and reality to suggest he would throw his wife off a bus (even metaphorically).

Surak's avatar

A student at a Turning Point USA event about one month ago asked Vance to address his interfaith marriage, because he is married to someone who is going to hell, or something like that. He said he prayed for her conversion. He had no objections to her Hindu faith when they got married. At that time he was appreciative of Usha's upscale family accepting a hillbilly like him. Now she is a worn-out rag. So yes, it did happen.

Charles Clemens's avatar

You make me happy that I no longer follow the news compulsively, If Bari Weiss doesn't write about it, I don't know about it. At this stage of my life, I think that is healthy for me.

Surak's avatar

I think I would be better off if I followed your example, Charles. I think I could find out what I need to know by checking in with Citizen Free Press and Breitbart. My mood would improve and Mrs. Surak would be happier too.

Charles Clemens's avatar

Of course, the flip side of the coin is that now I know what a terrible husband that Vance is. It's the old yin/yang. IT'S ALWAYS the old yin/yang

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Surak's avatar

Resisting Vance's anti-Hindu bigotry, which he did not have at the start of his marriage, does not constitute anti-Christian bigotry.

You have persistently misrepresented the views of others in this discussion and I think you need a time out.

Charles Clemens's avatar

The so-called 'GREAT COMMISSION' requires evangelical Christians to harass and insult all who do not share their views. Usha obviously understands God and follows his guidance as she understands it. Any Christian that demands that followers of God discard all the teachings and wisdom of his/her society is a bigot and a bully.

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Surak's avatar

Reading your comment left me sad, because you apparently didn't read the entire article. I provided evidence that the younger generation does indeed have legitimate economic grievances. Your summary of my article leaves out those parts entirely.

Many times I have criticized the free market establishment for taking a "Let them eat cake!" attitude towards their fellow Americans. I stated explicitly that the older generations harmed the younger generations by borrowing against them.

In short, your response is, I am sorry to say, an emotional over-reaction to an imagined adversary. You should re-read the current and prior articles.

Having said that, I have no sympathy for the Mamdani-Ocasio-Cortez-Sanders movement, and I also have no sympathy for the Bannon-Carlson-Fuentes-Gaetz-Greene-Owens movement. Communism and fascism are both evil and inexcusable.

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When Nick Fuentes says he wants to kill all Jews, is that wrong, fascist, or anti-Semitic?

When Candace Owens says Jews kill Christian children to get their blood, is that wrong, fascist, or anti-Semitic?

When Tucker Carlson insinuates that the Jews murdered Charlie Kirk, is that wrong, fascist, or anti-Semitic?

When Bannon and Carlson consistently advocate for policy positions favorable to Chinese, Russian, and jihadist influence, is that in America's self interest?

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Surak's avatar

Please educate me as to the appropriate context for these statements.

Nick Fuentes says he wants to kill all Jews. Candace Owens says Jews kill Christian children to get their blood. Tucker Carlson insinuates that the Jews murdered Charlie Kirk.

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